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August 24, 2006

Scumnesty (Scamnesty) International

Self-proclaimed "human rights organization" accuses IDF in committing war crimes. This and the similar organizations completely ignore the fact that IDF exercised the utmost caution trying to avoid civilian casualties, paying for these efforts by lives of officers and soldiers; moreover, many lives of Israeli civilians were lost because IDF was not able to destroy many launchers hidden in residential areas.

Meanwhile these organizations pay much less attention to deliberate targeting of Israeli civilians by Hezballah, Hamas etc, much less attention is paid to genocides committed by Arabs against black Africans, Copts, Assyrians, Kurds.

Persecution of dissidents in modern Russia is mainly ignored too. And this is a "human rights organization"? Their claims are scam, and these people are scum!

Posted by Victor at August 24, 2006 12:31 PM

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"Persecution of dissidents in modern Russia is mainly ignored too"

There are currently 459 reports on the human rights situation in Russia on the Amnesty website:


Posted by: mavan at August 27, 2006 02:28 PM

So, Russia shows 459 times? But not all these entries are condemnations of violations, some of them are just declarations. So, 458  figure is a Scam.

Further, Israel shows 483 times, USA 1515 times and these countries have way better record than Russia. Are lives of Chechens less valuable than those Arabs? I failed to find a single mention about threats of authorities against journalists reprinting caricatures from Danish newspapers

Sudan is mentioned 25 times despite genocide. Are lives of black Africans of no value? Iran is listed 25 times...

Azzam Azzam jailed by Egyptean kangaroo court under false pretext is not mentioned at all.

According to SI: Deliberate attacks of IDF constitute war crimes. But the killing of Eliyahu Asheri and kidnapping of Gilad Shalit just violate the international law. Names of Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev are not mentioned and murder of the other Israeli soldiers are not mentioned either. As well as of Iranian jews hanged under false pretext.

This behavior is not very different from the behavior of the cops who after group of minorities was brutally attacked by the mob of skinheads, arrest 10 of the former and 1 of the latter and when accused of the bias show the single arrested skin as the proof of impartiality.

Sorry, Mr Mavan, Scumnesty International deserves this title. Don't tell me that 30 ya AI was on the side of angels: even people change, organizations could be simply taken over. And any supporter of what became fully deserves the title of Scumbag.

Posted by: Victor Ivrii at August 27, 2006 03:25 PM

I beieve that some of SI etc folks are honest but misguided: they believe that criticizing Israel 480 times will make their 25 postings about Lebanon more acceptable for Arabs and these organizations will not be accused in siding with the West.

In fact however Arabs will just continue dismissing any criticism and even comfort themselves that Israel was mentioned almost 20 times more often than Sudan, ignoring the fact that supposed Israel violation are usually killing an armed terrorist or destruction of missile assembling workshop while Sudan violation are acts of mass murder. They follow Gimli "Well, but it still counts as one".

Posted by: Victor Ivrii at August 28, 2006 06:08 AM

Sudan is mentioned 25 times

No, Sudan is mentioned 400 times, 191 of which are urgent actions: http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-sdn/index

Iran is listed 25 times

No, Iran is listed 440 times, 263 of which are urgent actions.

In comparison, there are only 92 urgent action reports listed for Israel, somewhat less than "20 times more often" than Sudan.

Posted by: mavan at September 3, 2006 05:40 AM

Well, search engine of AI website returned only 25 for Sudan and Iran (this is definitely because search-engine without any warning cuts everything beyound). Thus it was my mistake, which I regret, but it was due to improper configured search engine.

Still http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-isr/index and http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-usa/index which are built on the same rules as those you provided return 440 and 1516 entries.

OK, I would admit for the sake of arguments that you looked through every entry and sorted out simply "mentioned" from "required actions" and that your figures are correct. Still, even in this case Israel is mentioned 92 times, so 6 times less than Sudan which however is out of proportion with the death ratio in comparison with Russia (Chechens) or Sudan.

Posted by: Victor Ivrii at September 3, 2006 06:15 PM